a worker in the united states should not be faced with the challenge of losing his job because he is belonging to a union that might be sent overseas. this is something we ought to do immediately. environmental standards are human rights. host: we got the point, della. guest: no one is denied the right to join a union. the right to join a union is simply something that is a right. we cannot stop people from joining private organizations, at least not yet. but the idea that you cannot join a union is just not true, della. host: mark mix, have you ever done a survey of union members to see how they vote? guest: every two or four years, we get data from both sides of the aisle talking about how